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Clarke Buehling

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Hello all,

I am primarily a Scruggs and three-finger style picker, but I love all styles of banjo playing, be it clawhammer, two finger, or minstrel style.

Clarke Buehling is one who keeps the minstrel style alive.

I have a question for some of y'all who might know about this vid, and I'm curious to know the title of the first tune he's playing here.

My guess is it would be called "Way Down In North Carolina". That just a guess, though.

Please let me know. Here's a vid of him playing the tune: Clarke

~Craig


Billy In The Low Ground PDF ~ For janolov

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Hello all,

This is one of my most favorite tunes, but sadly, I've never learned how to play it! For a long time I have been searching for a version in gCGBD tuning, but with no such luck. I would really like to try to see if someone could help me, and possibly create a PDF arrangement of "Billy".

Please feel free to contact me at vcp430@aol.com, if you would, and I appreciate the help very much.

For reference, there are two particular versions I would like to base this arrangement on.

Number one is by fiddler Ron Stewart along with banjo picker Jason Davis. This is his arrangement here.

The second is my a long time buddy of mine on YT, Steve Melton. His arrangement is in D, though in standard tuning, but this one could be used as well. This is his version.

Thank you very much.

~Craig

G modal starter tabs?

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Hey BH,

Just wondering if you guys could point me in the direction of some easy licks to play around on with G modal tuning. Thanks!

thumb placement on d?

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Playing out of G, sometimes I like to use the D chord rather than the D7 (plus I'm trying to get comfortable getting there quickly). As the drone is g, the half step from f# is usually too intense, but I'm not sure what to do with my thumb. Drop it? No -dy? What do you do? Playing out of D I just capo tge 5th string at 7; that seems to work.

Festival style... breakdancing?

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I saw the quote below and all I could think about how if you traded the breakdancing references for old-time, it could have been word for word on this board.  It reminds me of how small the world is and how much we are connected.  

"... because everybody watches the same videos online, everybody ends up looking very similar. The differences between individual b-boys, between crews, between cities/states/countries/continents, have largely disappeared. It used to be that you could tell what city a b-boy was from by the way he danced. Not anymore. But I've been saying these things for almost a decade, and most people don't listen, but continue watching the same videos and dancing the same way. It's what I call the "international style," or the "Youtube style."

 

Old Time Tunes with just 2 Chords (G&D)

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I got my dad a guitar for his birthday a few months ago. He loves old time music and I could tell he wanted to play but thought he was too old to start. I got him the guitar and a DVD and he learned G and D quick! He can play the alternating bass strings and everything. He really has a natural ear for rhythm.

Anyway, he is the one who got me into banjo. I remember him singing "Angeline the Baker" well, just that lyric. over and over. Apparently there was a banjo player at he knew when he went to school (he went to forestry school. I really want to post his class picture) The banjo player and a guitar player would play tunes around the camp and everyone would dance and drink and whatever they did before they became dads. He always wanted me to learn clawhammer and play that tune.

Well it occoured to me that Angeline is just 2 chords and they happen to be the chords he knows! I just told him the chords and the lyrics and I cant wait to go over with my banjo. I was wondering of any other 2 chord songs I could learn and teach him. I know he would love to play with me, or with anyone and I think it would really give him motivation and inspiration.

 

Thanks

TOTW 4/20/12 - Blind Steer in a Mudhole

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Today's Tune of the Week is Blind Steer in a Mudhole, a twelve-measure tune (eight-measure A part, four-measure B part) in the key of A that comes to us from southern Ohio fiddler Jimmy Wheeler.
 
I came across the tune during some recent research into Ohio fiddle tunes that began when my local weekly jam chose a different Ohio piece as their own tune of the week.  Being an Ohio native and living again in the state after a twenty year absence, that selection sparked in me a desire to enrich my current southern Appalachian-centric repertoire with some tunes that were born and popularized a little closer to home.  Compared to the long, rich history of field recording and tune collecting in areas like North Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, and so forth, Ohio seemed to be unexplored territory, and it has been relatively difficult to find old time tunes indigenous to the region. Much of the state's early-20th-century traditional fiddle and banjo music heritage has no doubt been lost - again compared to, say, Appalachia or the Ozarks - but fortunately there were a handful of people recording traditional Ohio artists back in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s. 
 
One of those people was fiddle player Jeff Goehring.  He recorded a number of southern Ohio fiddlers in the late 1970s and 1980s - Ward Jarvis, Lonnie Seymour, Cecil Plum, John Hannah, Arnold Sharp, and Jimmy Wheeler.  Many of his recordings can be found on Field Recorder Collective releases, including one from 2004 devoted to Jimmy Wheeler - FRC401 (http://www.fieldrecorder.com/docs/store2004.htm#frc401 ). Jeff was also a founding member of The Red Mule String Band, a central Ohio old-time group popular in the 1980s. It was their recording of Blind Steer in a Mudhole on the 1994 Rounder compilation album "The Young Fogies" that introduced me to the tune.  Although I just discovered that album last month, I did actually see the Red Mule String Band many years ago - in 1985, I think.  That was back when I had a more casual interest in the music, buying the occasional Folkways album but not seeking out live performances, and not yet even thinking of taking up an instrument.  I somehow found myself at a concert of theirs in, of all places, the sculpture garden at the Columbus Museum of Art.  Not quite the usual venue for an introduction to live old-time string band music.
 
Jeff recorded Jimmy Wheeler in the early 1980s at Jimmy's home in Portsmouth, Ohio, a river town located at the southernmost point of the state, where the Scioto River flows into the Ohio (the Scioto being the namesake of the popular fiddle tune Big Sciota).  Jimmy was in his mid-60s at the time (he would die a few years later in 1987 at the age of 69) and had spent most of his life working as an instrument repairman and a professional musician, playing fiddle, guitar, and bass.  He played both old-time and popular music in a variety of groups over the years, including a long stint with Forrest Pick as "The Personality Boys" on WPAY in Portsmouth.
 
I could find no mention of his birthplace, but I assume it was Portsmouth or elsewhere in Scioto County.  Many of the southern Ohio fiddlers recorded by Jeff had actually been born in Kentucky or West Virginia, coming to Ohio as adults in search of work.  But it seems Jimmy's family had been in Ohio for a long time. A book on the history of Adams County, immediately to the west of Scioto County, contains the following passage:
 
"Dr. F. Cumming, while touring "the western country," tells of stopping at an inn run by Timothy Mershon near Locust Grove Ohio, in August, 1807. Timothy Mershon had been a tavern keeper in Hunterdon Co. NJ, where he had also served in the militia during the Revolutionary War.
"Mershon is from the Jerseys, he has a numerous family growing up, and is now building a large log house in which he means to keep a tavern. Three of his sons play the violin by ear -they had two shocking bad violins, one of which was of their own manufacture, on which they scraped away without mercy to entertain us, which I would have most gladly excused, though I attempted to seem pleased and believe I succeeded in making them think I was so."
 
Timothy Mershon was Jimmy Wheeler's great-great-great-grandfather. The fiddle-playing sons were Jimmy's great-great-great-uncles and possibly his great-great-grandfather.
 
[That information comes from Helen Armstrong, a cousin of Jimmy's, who posted it on the Field Recorder Collective's website: http://www.fieldrecorder.com/docs/notes/wheeler_armstrong.htm .]

Since Jimmy's father was also a fiddler, it seems the Wheeler family may have been able to boast of an unbroken fiddle music heritage stretching back seven generations.  Perhaps their playing improved with each generation (or maybe Dr. Cumming just couldn't appreciate good frontier fiddling when he heard it).
 
Jeff Goehring posted his own thoughts and impressions of Jimmy and his music, along with a description of one of his recording sessions, on the Field Recorders website ( http://www.fieldrecorder.com/docs/notes/wheeler_goehring.htm ).  His entire account is well worth reading - the following is an excerpt focusing on Blind Steer in a Mudhole:
 
He plays very notey and fluidly, utilizing trills when they work. Kind of his own creative touch. Buddy Thomas and Haley both used "trills" to enhance their sound. Jim also sited older area fiddlers as sources for some of the tunes, which led me to the conclusion that these tunes weren't strictly Kentucky tunes but also were popular amongst Portsmouth area fiddlers of an earlier era.
 
Other tunes were strictly from Jim's father, like "Blind Steer in the Mudhole," and one which he called affectionately, "Dad's Tune." Other ones I also have never heard anywhere else, like "Six White Horses," "Cauliflower," "Dover." Plus some standards played by most Ohio fiddlers like Stonewall Jackson, Liberty, and Raggedy Ann. He also played a couple other Canadian type tunes: Joys of Quebec and the No Name Polka.
 
The tune "Blind Steer in the Mudhole" struck me as one of the most unique tunes he played the whole session. He learned the tune from his father. The first part of this tune was uncanny. I've never heard anything like it before. It starts out in the E chord, though the tune is actually, according to Jim, in the key of A. The second or "B" part of the tune is almost note-for-note derived from the Scottish, French-Canadian piece "Money Musk." It kind of makes one ponder upon the origin or creation of fiddle tunes once again.
 
The "A" part of Blind Steer is very bizarre and uncommon. I'm pretty sure I've not heard that particular melodic strain in anything else. The use of the open strings, double-stopping and drones is familiar to other pieces of earlier vintage. But that particular one is a first for me. Not that I've got that broad of a background anyways.

As mentioned in that account, Jimmy said he learned Blind Steer in a Mudhole from his father, Jim.  I could find no other reference to its origins, and am not sure whether it was a traditional tune that never traveled far from its southern Ohio/northern Kentucky roots, whether it was basically a family tune that the Wheelers had been playing for generations, or whether Jim Wheeler came up with it himself. The modern recordings of it that gave a source (several didn't) cited only Jimmy Wheeler.  The recent versions I found all appeared shortly after the Field Recorders release mentioned above, so I'm guessing that the recording of Blind Steer in a Mudhole on that disc, not the Red Mule String Band version, was used as the source recording.  Of course, it may be a more common tune than I realize, since I have only been paying close attention to old-time music for a few years. I was, for instance, somewhat surprised to find it in Steve Kaufman's "Favorite Traditional Fiddle Tunes for Flatpicking Guitar".
 
I did not, however, find it in any of the banjo tablature books I checked, and it seems that Blind Steer in the Mudhole  has not really been adopted by banjo players the way so many fiddle tunes have been.  It is perhaps a tune more appropriate for the Fiddle Hangout, but on the other hand I thought it might be worth introducing into the banjo repertoire - I mean, you can never have too many tunes to learn and play.
 
 
Here are the various online versions I found, including those referenced above:

Jimmy Wheeler, "Field Recorders Collective FC401", recorded by Jeff Goehring: http://www.fieldrecorder.com/docs/store2004.htm#frc401  (solo fiddle)

 

Jimmy Wheeler, "Berea College Digital Library of Appalachia", recorded by John Harrod: http://dla.acaweb.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Berea43&CISOPTR=1554&CISOBOX=1&REC=2 (solo fiddle)  (solo fiddle)

 

The Red Mule String Band, on "Young Fogies" (1994): http://www.amazon.com/The-Young-Fogies-Various-Artists/dp/B0000002M3  (full band)

 

Pete Sutherland, on his 2004 album "Streak o' Lean" (paired with  Icy Mountain): http://www.amazon.com/Icy-Mountain-Blind-Steer-Mudhole/dp/B0014BWVMY  (fiddle and guitar)

Bill Christophersen, on his 2008 album "Hell & High Water": http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/billchristophersen (fiddle and banjo)
 
Dave Marshall, on his 2009 album "Pleasant Hill":  http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dmacjb  (fiddle and banjo)



I could find no solo banjo versions, but there is banjo tab on the Mossy Roof site:  http://stringband.mossyroof.com/Blind_Steer_In_A_Mudhole.png

 
The only online video I found was of a couple of buskers in a Toronto subway station: http://us.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=fnrqi9r6b07bt
("We're playing 2 tunes. The first is Little Billy Wilson and the second (at 2:20) is Blind Steer in a Mudhole. Cheers, Jay")


I don't know where the title of the tune comes from. I guess the same place most traditional fiddle tune titles come from - some old-time musician's practical yet slightly quirky imagination.  If I try, I can hear in the B part of some versions - particularly that by the Red Mule Band - the repetitive struggles of a stuck steer.  I have been trying to come up with a banjo version of their recording, although since my learning-by-ear skills aren't that great what I play is based just as much on the Mossy Roof tab. Anyway, I enjoy playing the tune- I hope some of you do as well.
 

dwight diller cd & dvd

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Hello

 

no more CDs or DVDs of Dwight Diller on Elderly.com.

Where can I complete my collection ? 

Any idea ? 

 

Thanks

Bye 


Get a teacher

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Sax is my primary instrument, but  I have been fiddling with banjo (4 and 5 string) for several years, learning on my own. Recently I met a good banjo teacher and have begun lessons. What a difference. I'm learning so many important "little things" that are really fundamental and therefore not "little." These things don't show up in the do-it-yourself books and YouTube tutorials. Bottom line: get yourself a teacher if you're just getting started. There's no substitute.

Three opens on the same string...Steve Martins way?!

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I recently started playing a song that calls for three opens on the (same string), I normally do this with my index finger just like I pick every other note..but I recently looked at Steve Martins tab for the Clawhammer medley and noticed that when he hits three opens or three of the same notes on the same string  he sometimes uses his thumb to come down and grab one so its index, thumb, index...I play drop thumb but this method kinda threw me for a loop...Is this something that most clawhammer players do or is it just a steve martin thing?! Also ive heard of reverse thumbing on clawhammer picking anyone heard of this?!

Help with a Derroll Adams tune: Sioux Indians

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This is a great song from his album "Along the Way."  I really want to play this, but I definitely need some pointers.  Can any of you expert pickers help me figure it out?  Tuning? Chords? 

Cheers in advance!

Here's a recording:

http://soundcloud.com/gabor-szilagyi/derroll-adams-sioux-indians

Lyrics:

I'll sing you a song, though it may be a sad one,
Of trials and troubles and where first begun;
I left my dear family, my friends and my home,
To cross the great mountains and deserts to roam.

I crossed the Missouri and joined a large train,
Which bore us over mountains, and valley and plain;
And often of an evening a-huntin' we'd go
To shoot the fleet antelope and wild buffalo.

We traveled three weeks till we came to the Platte,
And we could stand our tents at the head of the flat;
We spread down our blankets on the green shady ground
Where the horses and the oxen were grazing around.

While taking refreshment, we heard a loud yell,
The whoops of Sioux Indians come up from the dale.
We sprang to our rifles with a flash in each eye
And says our brave leader, "We'll fight till we die."

They made a bold dash and they came near the train
The arrows fell around us like hail and like rain,
But with our long rifles we fed them hot lead
Till a-many a brave warrior around us lay dead.

We shot their bold chief at the head of the band,
And he died like a warrior with his gun in his hand.
And when they saw their bold chief lying dead in his gore
They whooped and they yelled and we saw them no more.

We loaded our wagons and started the train;
Three more bloody battles we had on the plain.
But and in our last battle three of our brave boys fell,
And we left them to rest on the green shady dale.

Tune Recycling

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There seems to be quite a few old time tunes used over and over, with different lyrics and different names. Is "Country Blues" just  "Darling Cory" in disguise, or maybe vice-versa? And "Long Steel Rail" vs "Rueben", as another example. What do you suppose caused this? Surely the old folks weren't so un-original they couldn't come up with their own melodies?

I think the only genre of music I can think of that doesn't have at least some tune recycling is rap and hip-hop. But then there are no tunes in rap and hip-hop, are there?

Tuning the Early Banjo

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Carl Anderton on another forum,

The earliest banjo instructor, The Complete Preceptor for the Banjo, by Gumbo Chaff, published by Oliver Ditson (1850), has most of the tunes in F, and gives the tuning as cFCEG. The seminal Briggs Banjo Instructor, of 1855, has most of the tunes in G, and uses a dGDF#A tuning. Most of the succeeding tutors until 1865 use the eAEG#B tuning, and play in the key of A, including Phil Rice's Correct Method for the Banjo, 1858, Buckley's New Banjo Book, 1860, and both Frank Converse tutors of 1865. The one exception is Septimus Winner's New Primer for the Banjo, published in 1864, which uses the dGDF#A tuning.

The higher tuning gives a brighter and more brilliant tone, and was probably more common. It also requires the singer to sing a little higher. Most stroke-style players these days use the Briggs tuning, for whatever reason. In my case, it's because it's the only one that fits my poor vocal range. [end quote]   http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?25703-Tuning-the-Early-Banjo

Any thoughts on these tunings?

Anyone play an old Fairbanks and Cole?

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What do these sound like:http://www.ebay.com/itm/1890s-Fairbanks-and-Cole-5-String-Banjo-Vintage-Used-/360437504696?pt=Guitar&hash=item53ebbfdab8  Something sexy about it, to me.

Something's strange -- Please read this

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Last night I was browsing through my BHO music files and, as I often do, I played a couple of random ones just to make sure they're still working OK. Well, I played the one titled "Trouble On My Mind", and I was astonished. The song's "Trouble On My Mind", but it's not my recording, it's Clifton Hicks' recording. I have no idea how the switch was made, I put my recording on BHO before I ever heard of Clifton Hicks, and I've never changed it. I sent him an email via BHO ( he's a BHO member ), apologizing for the problem, and I hope he ( or you ) didn't think I was trying to pass his work off as mine. I also deleted the file. 

I teach computer science, so I'm just naturally the world's biggest skeptic when someone blames "the system" for a problem, but there IS a glitch in there somewhere -- I swear to you that I never replaced my original recording with Mr. Hicks' recording. I'd love to be able to play at his level, but presenting someone else's work as my own doesn't help me accomplish that. One of the things that might be related to the problem is that I have in my internet explorer favorites a link to his youtube recording of a different song. That link was obtained from a reply to one of my previous posts regarding Clifton Hicks. But that seems pretty far-fetched, I have to say.

I don't know how to contact the BHO system manager, but if you do, it would be good if you'd pass this on to him or her, because something's wrong somewhere. Meanwhile, all I can do is offer my sincerest apology to you and Mr. Hicks.

Bill Martin


open back Banjo ?

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Well i have been practicing the Scruggs Roll for 1 week.  Last night I downloaded a beginner Clawhammer lesson video  from BHO  and will start on that tonight.  I have been picking without  finger picks and I suppose I need to get some online soon. I have not started trying to play any chords yet. 

This site seems like a great source of information .

Do most people play Clawhammer and Blugrass style ?  And should I just concentrate on one style for now ?  

Learning to play fast jam

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Not really sure where to place this request.

I have been playing for three years and am now starting to sit in on some fast jams. 

The first thing I noticed is that it is near impossible to play all those beautiful "lics" that took so much time to learn from tab, and secondly, the fiddle player is telling me to quit playing so many notes. So I'm now relearning many of the song/tunes that sound so beautiful when playing solo.

As a result I am starting to rely less on tab, and relying more on playing by ear.

So, the question is: To play at fast jam speed with a fiddle and others, is it "better/ more helpful" to learn the basic melody notes first and then later start to embellish it, or learn the more "melodic" versions first and start dropping notes. 

Buell Kazee strumming technique

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Hi I have practiced Bluegrass but have been recently leaning toward clawhammer, because of a video I discovered of Abigail Washburn's City of Refuge here on a thread. The thread mentioned Buell Kazee that she used and his method or technique of playing, and the fantastic video of him teaching it. Being a beginner though, can anyone please explain the right-hand technique he uses? Maybe in a 1,2,3,4,5 movement that I can learn and practice? I have learned rolls of course, and now have been practicing the clawhammer finger-thumb and the bum ditty finger strum thumb. Buell mentions a four movement technique for the right hand and one for the left that looks like the ring finger. Abigail Washburn looks like she's doing it too. And would love to learn this technique which again looks like Abigail Washburn uses in her songs. Thanks fellas, and the videos are below. Dean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H5naI8CE9Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgBgfn9S3gw

Brand New to Clawhammer...Help Me Out?

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Hi Everyone,

I'll be getting my very first clawhammer banjo in the next week or so, and have no idea how to play it.  I play other instruments (guitar, fiddle, mandolin, piano), and listen to a lot of Clawhammer, but have no idea on the technique.  Would you mind sending me some instructional material ideas on how to learn the technique?   I'm really looking forward to recording some fiddle/clawhammer tunes once I start learning how to play. 

 

Thank you very much for your time,

Chris

2 fingers on the fret hand

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I have been looking for ways to play stringed instruments but I lost use of all but the thumb , first and second fingers in a cqb engagement.  all the links I follow looking for ways to learn, yes learn, the guitar with 2 fingers really arent using only 2 fingers on the fretting, if you look closely, most of the videos they actually cheat. truthfully, I quit asking for directions and advice because 9 out of every ten responses are something ignorant and leave replies like , "play with your feet, or switch hands , or play air guitar.  It floors me that people my age, I am 58 today, are leaving stupid remarks like that at our age. So, at risk of the same, where can I get dvd videos or the like , using my first and second finger only? 

 

 

Mark

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