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Bar Chords

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I have read that classical guitarists have maybe the best technique in performing bar chords on a stringed instruments. I have read articles about the varied approaches on how people perform bar chords, differently,  and they make it work, but it isn't the best possible form. I confess that I don't know how to perform bar chords, just to be clear. 

 

I wonder if there are videos in the archives that show proper form in creating a bar chord properly, that a member  could point me toward or maybe point me to a website the shows it.

My real hope is that someone could make a video showing all the different points to consider when making  the bar chord and post it or send to me.  I notice some performers finger is exactly parallel to the fret. Some perform the bar chord with the palm side of the finger others with the very side of their finger.

I can't see the thumb pad placement on any of the videos I have seen, but am really interested in seeing that.aspect. is the thumb more toward the peghead or the bridge or directly behind the barring finger. I saw a classical guitarist that seemed to place his thumb pad closer to the bridge  and not directly behind the barring finger. 

 

So any comments would be welcome. If you feel inclined to make a little vidoe and post it, please send me the link. or just send it directly...

 

Thanks..

 

Mike Tappe

mtappe@gottabesolid.com

 

 

 

 


Clawhammer Tone: Please Share Your Insights

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I'm starting to care about tone but, quite frankly, I don't know what I'm after and even if I did, I'm not sure I'd know how to produce it. The only thing I'm sure about is that I like what I'd call uncluttered playing--clear single notes with just a touch of brushing now and again--and I enjoy listening to a sweet ring from others, but my tastes run toward a more rough and rhythmic sound.

I read somewhere that tone is all about the right hand. I'm guessing that desirable tone is subjective, but talk to me about your experiences with learning to get a sound that you like from your instrument(s) from the side of 5, 10, 20+ years playing.

What should I be listening for? Thinking about? Experimenting with? What were some of your aha moments? What are some beginner mistakes that I might not notice that I should try to avoid? : )

What is it?

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I have read so much about the different banjos you all have used over the years and I am hoping that you might help me identify the banjo I have.  I was a gift from a friend and he knew nothing about it other than it was used in a country music band.

It is very heavy with resonator.  The markings on the keyboard are long rectangles with triangular shaped ends.  It has 24 bracket hooks.  There is no marketing name on the instrument, but inside it is marked "TSB 221748".  Does any of this ring any bells? 

Any assistance on your part will be appreciated.  Thank you in advance. 

Old Time Jams in Mobile, AL area next weekend??

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Any Old Time jams in the Mobile area the weekend of the 25th?

 

Thanks!

Bob

A before B except . . .

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What make an "A part" an "A part" and why do performers often start with the "B part"?



I have noticed that, while most any tabs I've seen tend to agree on the order (and I may just be projecting here) when I listen to recordings posted here there are lots of cases where the performer starts with a different part than most others.



I know that there are no objective "rules" in banjo playing, but is there a theory?


Stuck between Bluegrass and Clawhammer

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I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but I find myself stuck between old-time clawhammer banjo and bluegrass style. I like the Grandpa Jones, Stringbean approach to music (clawhammer with a resonator) but find it difficult to fit in with bluegrass or old time. Seems bluegrass is more 3-finger picking and old-time is more of an open back approach. At bluegrass jams, I feel like an "outsider" and old time doesn't really seem to cater to "fast and furious" approach a.k.a. Grandpa Jones. I don't want to give up the style, but I do wish to be part of a group someday. Anyone else feel like they are in this boat? Any advice?

Need banjo player for project in Greensboro, NC

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Would any of you want to join a start-up New Orleans jazz-style project?

 

We have all the horns, piano, drums, tuba and singers.  All we need is a banjo player.

 

This is an experienced bunch.

Question about Charlie Poole's tuning

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Did Poole use gCGBD for every key? I've recently become interested in his playing again. I know it was his standard but the Old-Time Herald article discussing his style is a little vague. It says he used it for the keys of C and D. I thought he used it for every key.


G tuning in D

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Most of what I play is in G (or A or B) but there are times when I need to play in D especially in a jam. So I spike the 5th string to A and play the rest in G tuning. This seems a little limited in what can be done tho' as opposed to retuning to drop C or double C and capoing. So what do others do in this situation.. keep G tuning or retune, and retune and retune,.. etc.? I'd like to stay in G so I'm looking for add'l ways to play in D with more of a variety.

TOTW (OT) 18 July 2014: Apple Blossom (Kentucky)

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This one's a regional tune that would've filled the warm summer air a late night or two in 1920's south-central Kentucky, at some generous host's moonshine-fueled square dance. The fiddlers might've been "teed up a little," as ol' Jim Bowles phrased it. Up all night sawing away at this soaring melody.

It first caught my ear when I joined the jam at the Dallas Heritage Village one September day last year. It's a simple tune, but one that hooks you quick. Key of D, I play it in aDADE. The coarse part hovers low to the ground, kicking up dust before breaking through to that fine part (real fine), where the melody launches into the sky on a high A, hits a little turbulence before gaining even more altitude to the B note. Then back to earth. 
 
A few of the fiddlers who attend the Dallas old-time jam play the tune as part of a medley containing Shamrock Shoddy and Wolf Creek. There's supposed to be a great live version by Bruce Green, but I didn't have much luck tracking it down (Bruce Green did incidentally take a few of the field recordings I link to below). The two most available field recordings are performed by Isham Monday (of whom I wasn't able to learn much about) and Jim Bowles. I wish Jim's rendition would go on for twenty minutes (we get a measly 50 seconds!). He's got a great, very musical sense of ornamentation, throwing in these nice trills, sometimes where you don't expect it.
 
Now this isn't to be confused with the Texas style tune of the same name. From what I can tell the TOTW differs from Apple Blossom Time as well. There also might be some kinship between our TOTW and one called Dubuque (or Duck River). On recordings from Clifftop, you can hear the stellar old-time band Bigfoot play a tune I've seen labeled as Dubuque, that is in fact a carbon copy of our TOTW (played masterfully).
 
So with the rambling out of the way here's the meat and potatoes, starting with the link to where this tune can be found on the Fiddler's Companion:

http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/AN_AP.htm
 
A link to field recordings of Isham and Bowles:
 
And a link that'll lead you to John Lusk's version, which is a good deal different than Isham or Bowles', but is listed in the same section in the Fiddler's Companion.

http://slippery-hill.com/M-K/

Here are some great versions to be found on Youtube:
 
This fella learned his version from the WildRoot String Band.


 
Group jammin' at Mount Airy in 2010.

 
Bullet train of a rendition of Lusk's version--again, Fiddler's Companion calls it the same tune as Isham's, but it's quite a variation. Similar feel in the fine part.

 
Tune called Apple Blossom Time played by Tennessean Chuck Tramel on banjo (as mentioned on Fiddler's Companion), that's clearly a close kin to the TOTW.


 
 
And my rendition:

 
Here's my tab of the tune, the basic way I'm playing it:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3zIoZkOL1oVM3RtR3VnQmU2OE0/edit?usp=sharing
 
 
And some other cool stuff...
 
Links to parts one and two of a great Old Time Herald article from '94, about Jim Bowles, written by Jim Nelson. Well worth the read, some great quotes from Bowles (including the one about gettin' teed up):
 
 
 
Here are a few more field recordings, such as another version of Isham's take on the tune:

http://dla.acaweb.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/berea/id/659/rec/22
 

 

I'd love to hear some renditions from y'all! Happy to make this my first TOTW!

"Ebenezer" - Clawhammer Tunetorial for 7/20/14

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In this, Tunetorial number 9, Dan "Clawdan" Levenson teaches Ebenezer. This one will be a challenge to most of you. It has some fancy up the neck tricks that make it more intricate than your average fiddle tune. I must admit that while not one of my personal favorites, it is a tune that is enjoyed by many and thus an “Old Time Favorite” that is often played when jam sessions get into the key of G. So, enjoy this challenging tune.

In this and all of the Tutorials, Dan plays the tune three times through up to speed then slow starting with a basic version and building to an advanced one. Then Dan plays the basic version and breaks it down phrase by phrase. Same with the advanced.

This is tune number 18 tabbed out in Dan's newest book "Old-Time Favorites for Clawhammer Banjo" (MelBay 30224). Tab and standard notation with 2 cds of banjo and fiddle audio tracks. The fiddle notation and mandolin tab can be found in my companion book “Old Time Favorites for Fiddle and Mandolin” (MelBay 30225)

You can purchase the video lesson (for unlimited streaming and download) here on the Banjo Hangout for $6. Get it here >

Dan and I would love to hear any feedback you have on these videos, so feel free to post or email us. Our goal here is provide a steady, affordable way for people to learn a new clawhammer tune weekly (or as often as they'd like).

If you're working on the tune, record yourself and post it below--we'd love to hear your progress!

Books for mountain banjo style

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I've got the clawhammer book my Ken Perlman, but the more I play I'm leaning more towards learning old time and mountain tunes.  Can anyone recommend a good book for that stuff?  I've been listening to Frank Proffitt and Dock Boggs and love their playing styles.  

Tobins Jig

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Does anybody have a tab they would be willing to share for Tobins Jig? I would really appreciate any help anyone can give.

(Mel Bay Presents) String Band Classics for Banjo

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I was at Half Price Books store this weekend and happened upon this book.  I thought it would be a good companion to my recently purchased "Old Time String Band Banjo Styles". 

This is a book of 23 tunes from the Highwoods String Band album "Feed Your Babies Onions",  transcribed by Bob Flesher.  Tab only, written for the 2 finger index-lead style, with some bits of 3 finger as well.  As primarily a 2 finger, thumb lead, player, I don't anticipate too much problem adapting. 

This book only cost me $7 (list price is $18)..  You can find  information about the book (contents, samples of tab, etc.)  at http://www.melbay.com/Products/96688BCD/string-band-classics-for-banjo.aspx and I downloaded mp3 files of the songs (from the album) from the site.  There was a fiddle version of this book at the store as well.

Anyone else found/used this book?

2 finger index lead = up picking with drop thumb?

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I asked this in another thread, but decided to give it a thread of its own.

Is there a difference between 2 finger index lead and what Pete Seeger's book called up picking with drop thumb?

If I take any standard clawhammer tab and use up picking instead of down picking, it's quite readable.  In fact,unless you are told that it's clawhammer, there's no way of telling the difference from the tab.*

Since I never have used the term "2 finger index lead" or "index lead two finger", I'm not sure if there's a difference.

 

* Probably the exception would be a clawhammer tab using the Galax lick, which has always seemed to elude me.


Folding Down the Sheets Title

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I am currently learning the tune Folding Down the Sheets from a Tim Rowell tab.  Does anybody know what activity that term refers to?

Do you have days where your banjo just doesn't sound right?

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Do you have days where your banjo just doesn't sound right but you are pretty sure that nothing on the banjo has changed?  

All day today my banjo hasn't sounded right to me.  I do have a hide head (that I love), but according to measurements that I took it's still at the same tension that it's been at for at least the last week.  I am wondering if it could just be in my head?  I started fooling around with the tension, but I can't seem to find anything that I like and I am wondering if I should just not worry about it and come back to it tomorrow?

-Ryan

NYLGUT STRING TYPES

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I just finished assembling a fretless kit that I bought from Bell Banjos, It came with Nylgut "Minstrel Banjo" strings. It just so happens that I have three other sets of Nulgut strings. "Classic  Banjo Medium all Nylgut", "Classic Banjo Light wt.", and "Classic Banjo Med. wt.". Does anyone know what the differences are between these three types and when or why I would want to use one over the other?  Thanks, Jim Gibb

adam hurts playing style on the chance mccoy album

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can someone tell me more about the way adam hurt is playing on the chance mccoy appalachian string band album? im talking about his rhythm back up for the fiddle tunes. it almost sounds like a constant double thumb with very little melodic change

 

ive only found one video of him playing on youtube using the style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHIic_z5ZtI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHIic_z5ZtI

im new to playing the banjo (about 1 month) so this might be a dumb question but im intrigued by the sound

Steel String Question

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I'm thinking of trying an unwound .018 string for my 4th string instead of a wound .020 string.  Anyone try an unwound 4th string for clawhammer?

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